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	<title>Comments on: Assessing Our Progress</title>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How will you know then, when a man has been chosen over a women with no sexism in play? How about no racism? 

If sexism was really at play, then why is it that Hillary made it as one of the last two candidate whereas all the other candidates, who were male, dropped like flies because of not getting enough votes?

If Hillary won and then became president, it would've been a move forward for female equality, but because she lost, it's automatically the opposite, that it was a step back?

I'm a regular advocate for female equality (my boyfriend hears it enough from me). I see that both had something against them. Hillary-sexism and Barack-rasicm. The situation could've been so easily flipped and people would be pulling out the racism card like crazy. I guess either way, one group's progress would've stepped forward while the other's stepped back.

I'm both female and a minority, so I guess I have two strikes against me. I don't watch my back as often as looking forward, and I can't, or else I'll set myself back. Seeing Hillary getting this far makes me optimistic  because it was by merit that carried her here. After all, isn't that our goal? To be judged by merit and not by sex? 

Personally, I voted for Barack because I wanted a different attitude and a non-political person to run the country. For me, Hillary's "merit", her political experience, was what turned me off. I also see Barack as a better leader for international relations, which we so desperately need to improve, but that's a different topic :).

My feeling is that we'll ever end sexism or racism. But with each passing generation, with education and attitude changes, we're getting closer and closer. (Just hope that the asian and middle eastern cultures don't take over the world!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How will you know then, when a man has been chosen over a women with no sexism in play? How about no racism? </p>
<p>If sexism was really at play, then why is it that Hillary made it as one of the last two candidate whereas all the other candidates, who were male, dropped like flies because of not getting enough votes?</p>
<p>If Hillary won and then became president, it would&#8217;ve been a move forward for female equality, but because she lost, it&#8217;s automatically the opposite, that it was a step back?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a regular advocate for female equality (my boyfriend hears it enough from me). I see that both had something against them. Hillary-sexism and Barack-rasicm. The situation could&#8217;ve been so easily flipped and people would be pulling out the racism card like crazy. I guess either way, one group&#8217;s progress would&#8217;ve stepped forward while the other&#8217;s stepped back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m both female and a minority, so I guess I have two strikes against me. I don&#8217;t watch my back as often as looking forward, and I can&#8217;t, or else I&#8217;ll set myself back. Seeing Hillary getting this far makes me optimistic  because it was by merit that carried her here. After all, isn&#8217;t that our goal? To be judged by merit and not by sex? </p>
<p>Personally, I voted for Barack because I wanted a different attitude and a non-political person to run the country. For me, Hillary&#8217;s &#8220;merit&#8221;, her political experience, was what turned me off. I also see Barack as a better leader for international relations, which we so desperately need to improve, but that&#8217;s a different topic :).</p>
<p>My feeling is that we&#8217;ll ever end sexism or racism. But with each passing generation, with education and attitude changes, we&#8217;re getting closer and closer. (Just hope that the asian and middle eastern cultures don&#8217;t take over the world!)</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Frohlinger, JD</title>
		<link>http://thethinpinkline.com/2008/06/08/assessing-our-progress/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Frohlinger, JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic as well, Erin Abrams asks, "With '18 million cracks', why hasn't the higest glass ceiling shattered?" Read her post at www.theglasshammer.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic as well, Erin Abrams asks, &#8220;With &#8216;18 million cracks&#8217;, why hasn&#8217;t the higest glass ceiling shattered?&#8221; Read her post at <a href="http://www.theglasshammer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglasshammer.com</a>.</p>
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